Turning Cancer Into Strength: Danny Gereg’s Powerful Comeback

November 5, 2025

Transcript

Voice over:

This is Bladder Cancer Matters, the podcast for bladder cancer patients, caregivers, advocates, and medical and research professionals. It’s brought to you by the Bladder Cancer Advocacy Network, otherwise known as BCAN. BCAN works to increase public awareness about bladder cancer, advances bladder cancer research, and provides educational and support services for bladder cancer patients and their loved ones. To learn more, please visit BCAN.org.

Rick Bangs:

Hi, I’m Rick Bangs, the host of Bladder Cancer Matters, a podcast for, by, and about the bladder cancer community. I am also a survivor of muscle invasive bladder cancer, the proud owner of a 2006 model year neobladder, and a patient advocate supporting cancer research at the Bladder Cancer Advocacy Network, or as many call it, BCAN, producers of this podcast.

I am pleased to welcome today’s guest, Danny Gereg. Danny is a survivor of non-muscle-invasive bladder cancer, diagnosed in 2023. After his cancer diagnosis, Danny rebuilt his life. Living by his motto, “Cancer is a great motivator,” he underwent a transformation, shedding more than 100 pounds and embracing a new life of mental and physical health. Today, he is cancer-free and healthier than ever, channeling his relentless energy into passionate advocacy. As an influencer, he utilizes writing and music to mentor fellow patients and makes it his mission to address topics that need to be heard, such as erectile dysfunction and the urinary issues that often follow. His is a powerful voice for resilience, proving that you can turn crisis into a total rebirth.

This episode contains explicit language and candid conversations about bladder cancer and sexuality. We believe it’s essential to have open, honest conversations about these matters to provide support and guidance to those who may be facing similar experiences. Bladder cancer can bring significant changes and challenges in the realm of intimacy and sexuality, and we want to address these topics head on.

Danny, thanks for joining our podcast.

Danny Gereg:

Thank you so much, Rick, for having me. It’s an honor and a pleasure to be here.

Rick Bangs:

We’re thrilled to have you. So, I want to set the stage for your bladder cancer diagnosis, as it showcases a theme in this particular podcast, which is the importance of family and taking charge of your own health. So, what was your health status prior to your diagnosis? What were you experiencing and what did you and your wife start doing?

Danny Gereg:

The best way to explain my health status really was just non-existent. Terrible. Any negative word you could attach to that. I was diabetic. I was an alcoholic, obese for a great majority of my life. I think there was only a small time in high school where I wasn’t significantly overweight. Obviously cancer, which was something that was moving around with me and I didn’t know it. I had just these terrible little habits that I just used to get through my life. I never drank water. Now that I look at that and I think of my health as a whole, I substitute-

Rick Bangs:

Wow.

Danny Gereg:

… pop and soda, and then I wondered why I had diabetes by the time it got to that. But on top of it, all of those factors made me terribly unhappy. I had poor mental health and terrible coping skills. My wife and I, I actually had stopped drinking due to her asking me to do so, and when I did, we started slowly exercising, starting on that path. We felt as if we had time to do it. I was only 48, so I thought I did have time.

Rick Bangs:

Okay. Wow. So, your bladder cancer diagnosis starts with some unrelated GI issues, and they fortunately triggered some tests, so tell me what happened.

Danny Gereg:

Yeah. When I had quit drinking, every once in a while, I would get sick in the morning. I think everybody might experience it, upset stomach, maybe it’s the coffee. So, I would just throw up and, okay, I’m healing. I’m going through a rebirth, quote unquote.

But one day we were watching my grandson, and then it just wouldn’t stop. I started it up. 15 minutes later, I’m doing it again. And it felt like I had razor blades in my stomach. So, part of the main idea of this whole kind of journey is one very big piece of it is being a male and refusing to get myself checked out, because as males, we got to keep working. No, we’re fine. I’m puking. I’m going to work. [inaudible 00:04:44].

Rick Bangs:

Suck it up.

Danny Gereg:

Yeah, and unfortunately it’s this unsaid thing and we just have this drive in us to complete it, and rightfully so. We have work to do.

I went to the hospital after vomiting for 12 hours. Just wheel me in there. And I felt like I actually no longer had any life in me at that point, so they gave me a CT scan to make sure, once I stopped the vomiting, he said he wanted to check mainly my esophagus for any tearing or internal bleeding, and that is what uncovered a smudge, or carcinoma. So, that was my scope at the emergency room that day.

Rick Bangs:

Wow. Okay, so now you’re diagnosed with bladder cancer as a result of all this. And so what was your specific diagnosis? And what treatments did you receive as a result?

Danny Gereg:

That was intermediate risk, non-muscle-invasive bladder cancer. So, I had a Ta grade tumor for the pathology. It was about a grape-sized tumor, and it was situated over the left ureter from my kidney. My doctor called that unroofing. This made it, let’s not say emergent, but they were very concerned that it might be urothelial cancer at that point, since it did grow over the opening. It was, I believe, two and a half centimeters, I believe. Right around grape size. So, when you think of that relative to the bladder, I remember reading that the bladder was a grapefruit size, so a grape inside of a grapefruit, that’s a pretty significant tumor. So, once he unroofed that, that was the TURBT, a standard surgery for that transurethral resection of a bladder tumor. Since it was over the hole from my kidney, I received a stent.

Rick Bangs:

Oh, those are painful.

Danny Gereg:

Oh my gosh, it rubs. It’s this irritating thing. And you think of it, it was a Double J stent. And I’m not a doctor. I was a plumber at that point, which isn’t too different, I guess, when I get right down to it. And I looked up a Double J stent, and you’d have to look it up, but it goes from your kidney to your bladder. And I was trying to get back in the gym and I’d be on the treadmill, it’d just be rubbing, rubbing.

Rick Bangs:

And sleeping. Sleeping.

Danny Gereg:

Oh my gosh, insomnia is a part of bladder cancer, as you know, Rick. I hope that I can stop the frequent urination over time. It has lessened up, but it’s really interesting that a lot of people don’t mention the insomnia that comes specifically with bladder cancer due to just those things, those irritations.

But that got me into, I had a couple chemo washes after surgery, TURBT surgery. I had a bladder full of gemcitabine. After my stent removal, I woke up with a bladder full of gemcitabine. And then my doctor prescribed me a three-year course of BCG immunotherapy, of which I’m terribly BCG responsive. I’m two years into that and no evidence of disease right now. I have not had any return tumors.

Rick Bangs:

Excellent. And no issues getting the BCG?

Danny Gereg:

Other than the serious problems that it causes me. When you first get it, it’s a mild irritation. Maybe I got a little bit of an allergy or something. But by year two, all I have to say is it’s working. And this is a double-edged sword. BCG responsiveness is an industry standard, and I’m happy to be there. I asked my doctor if I could quit at one point, and he just looks at you like, “Are you sure? You’re almost there.” And I’m like, “No, [inaudible 00:08:30].” But I do know people who have.

Rick Bangs:

The finish line’s in view here, Danny.

Danny Gereg:

It is. And a year, when I look at that, I’ve got six treatments left, that’s six weeks, but two months… For the entire month, it really puts me off my feet with all the symptoms that come along with an inflamed, enraged bladder. It’s how we cure cancer, so it keeps the energy up when you get to wake up every day and enjoy your family again.

Rick Bangs:

Right. Okay, so you’ve admitted to me that you felt lost at your diagnosis. And most of us, let’s be honest, most of us are. So, why did you specifically feel lost? And how’d you deal with it?

Danny Gereg:

Same with you, Rick, I’m sure. And the more people I talk to in advocacy, it’s just like, “Okay, we think you got cancer.” I got that answer a couple of times, and then all the vacuum is just sucked out of me, or all the air is just sucked out of me into this vacuum. And when I think of anecdotes to tell people to impact them about bladder cancer and the severity and the specificity that comes along with the bladder cancer diagnosis, it’s a terrible cancer. If it makes it into your bloodstream, you’re probably not going to do well.

But I was walking through a store with my wife right after, because you go to the hospital and they say, “Hey, you got cancer,” and then it’s like, “Let’s go to the store,” because you got to keep going. The wife’s like, “I need a-“

Rick Bangs:

Life continues.

Danny Gereg:

On movies I watched, there’d be the antagonist, I don’t know, somebody in a movie, and he would’ve just got some news and he’s walking real slow in slow motion, but everybody around him is moving really fast. I felt that exact way. It stopped my entire world. Vacuum of information, vacuum of thought, vacuum of happiness, like you’re restarting from a child, that every cancer patient can relate to.

Rick Bangs:

All right. Wow. Okay, so you and your wife expand your health efforts at this point. What did that look like?

Danny Gereg:

Gosh, when we talk about expanding health efforts, it’s been such a long journey. It’s been 2023, September. I just have my two-year cancerversary. So, over that time-

Rick Bangs:

Yeah, congratulations.

Danny Gereg:

Thank you very much. It’s such a journey regardless. And I always mention the word specificity and that each person’s journey is different. Each person’s cancer is different.

I always like to say this to you and other delegates from BCAN, but I was on the treadmill with that stent that I was just talking about and I heard this podcast, and I was just in that vacuum that we were talking about, the walking. I had just got off of just a hand machine because that’s all I could do. I couldn’t walk or run treadmill at this time, just gradually work my way up. And I heard you. I’m like, “Who is this Rick Bangs fella?” And it was about the BCG shortage, and that was the first-

Rick Bangs:

Ah, okay.

Danny Gereg:

Yeah. And you and the doctor, it was very informative. And I’m, “Oh my god, now I’m going to not be able to get my medicine.” It gave me such a start, and that was the first piece of information that I ever got. And then when you just get… So, there I’m on the treadmill. “Hey, guys. What’s up BCAN?” Two years ago. It’s so crazy to be sitting here talking to you right now.

Then my wife could run for five minutes, and then I started running for two minutes, and then all of a sudden, she’s running for 15, half hour, hour. Okay, so we stay at a campground. We’re campground hosts. We take care of the campers here. It’s an amazing job. Well, every morning she runs 6.3 miles. She used to weigh 250 pounds. This morning, she weighed 139.

Rick Bangs:

Oh my gosh.

Danny Gereg:

Yeah, she did it without cancer. Like I said, cancer was a great motivator. That’s what it took for me, staring death. My wife did it just because she loved me. So when you talk about the importance of family, oh my gosh, that getting up, like I said, every morning, “Danny, what are we going to do? What are we going to do today?” And she still does it.

So, when you look at that panorama when you ask me about my health journey, oh my gosh, we’re up to two years. I’ve lifted. I’ve watched all the YouTube videos. I actually even took a de-load, or a time not to work out, and started eating a couple donuts every once in a while again. It’s great, man, because I spent so long as it pertains to that health journey. I had no sugar, nothing but water. We are going to do this. Every time I ran, people would say, “Why do you do that so avidly?” It’s like, “Cancer is right behind me, man. I’m running from cancer.”

Yeah, it’s about the journey. And me and my wife actually, when we get back home from camp hosting, we’ve reset and we said, “We’re going to join back up. We’re healthy, we’re good.” She actually just had a hysterectomy and she had to take some time off. And we’re going to start running again, and we’re going to start phase, goodness, whatever this phase is, and we’re going to strengthen our relationship and we’re going to be optimistic. And that’s what it is, man. Just that fight for survival, that thriving that we want to do.

Rick Bangs:

That’s incredible. Okay, so you’ve already talked a little bit about it. Tell me some more about your health today. I heard about more than 100 pounds lost, both you and your wife. So, what are some of the guideposts relative to your current status?

Danny Gereg:

Oh my gosh, just a total… When I talk about the opening question and how was your health nonexistent, well, now it’s absolutely completely existent. I eat only whole foods. We do the short list. When you look at your food, the shorter the list, the better. We don’t eat long-list foods. If I have a problem, I attack it. When I have a mental health issue, I talk about it with my wife. When I have a physical issue, I go to the doctor immediately. I do the research.

I’ve gained a lot of knowledge about life because we’re dealing with cancer, we’re dealing with tumors, but really we’re dealing with eventual impossible death. So, I tried to just face that and say, “Cancer might’ve almost killed me, but there’s a lot of ways…” I don’t want anything like this to happen again. I opened my eyes and I know that this is the right way to lead a healthy and productive lifestyle now.

So, my blood pressure is great. My blood sugar, like I said, it was 300. Now, I average 100. I do not go to an endocrinologist, though I do have the echoes of my old lifestyle. I have diabetic retinopathy. Occasionally, I’ll go 50% blind in my right eye. When I bend over, the blood will just run into it. I have-

Rick Bangs:

Oh, wow.

Danny Gereg:

… diabetic neuropathy. I’m starting into this, but I’ve been able to do this without any help medication. I’ve been able to do it holistically. So, I’m very proud of the fact that I was… I got it early enough. I was perhaps young enough, because I know people really at 70 or the average age for bladder cancer, over 70, can’t always jump about and run a marathon. So, my voice is just do something. One foot. It doesn’t matter, man. Walk. Just do it.

Rick Bangs:

Yeah, just do something. Just do something.

So, you and I are both early onset, and we were both diagnosed at 48.

Danny Gereg:

Oh, wow. Great. I didn’t realize that. Yeah, because it’s rare and [inaudible 00:16:10].

Rick Bangs:

Yes.

Danny Gereg:

I say great because there’s one other guy, I speak to hundreds of people, and he’s 44, I believe, so it’s great to hear that there’s more people in this group that we can rely on each other a little more and get some more answers that we might need specifically.

Rick Bangs:

Right. And the clinicians have an interest in pursuing this a little more deeply as to why this is happening and-

Danny Gereg:

Exactly, yeah.

Rick Bangs:

… maybe learning more about it.

Danny Gereg:

Yes.

Rick Bangs:

Okay, so now you’ve made it your mission to talk about erectile dysfunction, and that topic is typically been whispered about, if discussed at all. So, why is that important to you?

Danny Gereg:

Well, I just fell into that line of conversation or vernacular, and just because I noticed that every time I spoke of it, it was just shied away from. I notice subtle psychologies in people as I speak to them, and I observe them, and then it got me to start thinking of just urological issues, or genitourinary issues, as they’re referred to sometimes. Glancing downward, I came up with a few philosophy about there’s an unconscious shyness from anything that involves, even if it’s cancer, even if it’s a serious problem, when people think of it, you just want to be proper. And there are social things that we have to follow and proprieties that we have to follow with such. But if we ignore these things, it’s going to really fester and it’s going to get worse. So, there’s got to be a spokesperson to not be scared of having a tactful approach.

But when it comes to prostate, bladder, or any of your sexual organs, I have found that people, even just with a cancer thing, they want to feel sorry for you on the cancer spectrum, but they’re like, “Ugh.” And then when you start talking about catheters, or I call them conscious catheters, then they’re totally… You got to grab onto them and say, “Wait, everything’s going to be fine.” But I don’t think they even know it. So, when you snap them to attention and say, “Well, my name is Dan and I dealt with many, many symptoms when it came to bladder cancer, and one of the first ones might’ve been erectile dysfunction. In fact, it definitely was erectile dysfunction.”

But when we get into that question with me, like I said, specificity, my symptoms a year before I had bladder cancer, keeping in mind that I had no idea I had a tumor, frequent urination, urinary urgency, back and hip pain, weight loss, and of course, ED. So then, alcoholism, all these things can cause ED. High blood sugar can cause ED. So, I was stuck in that vacuum. And then I went and I heard that first podcast about BCG, and there was my first piece of information, and it led over to, “Hey, why is this happening?”

So, once I started to uncover the onion layers, then eventually I got to ED. But I want to impress upon people how difficult it is going to be to uncover it. You have to be patient. You’re going to have to get healthy. You’re going to have to quit drinking if you want to really get to the core problem.

To get a little bit more in depth about a particular problem, I find it necessary to say mine was the fact that I was flaccid. Like I said, I was 48 and I’ve been married for 29 years and there’s no reason for any of this, and then I’m flaccid. There might be other people out there that have a complete loss of it. But when I looked back on mine, I thought possibly blood vessels being pushed on by the tumor, nerve clusters being pressed on by the tumor. But really, it got lost in translation that by the time I’m at the end of it, I’m okay, everything’s fine. I no longer have an ED problem at all. I’ve had to use no medication to do it, except for get healthy, and I had that chance.

But unfortunately, my wife and I did that for a year at least before I was diagnosed. And the psychological problems that come with that stigma internally with me as a male just makes you feel impotent. If males might hear the word impotent, it just has such a negative connotation to it, but I’m here to say that it shouldn’t. It’s a symptom. It’s just like anything else. We can uncover it. We can figure this out. There are things that you can do. Hopefully, you have a good caregiver. My wife was amazing. She didn’t give me complexes about this. She stuck in. She’s just the most amazing person that I’ve ever dealt with. When I look back at her, I’ve been married to her for so long, and then I look at her, I ask her sometimes, I’m like, “This just must’ve been really something to watch.” She just looks to me with those loving eyes and she’s just happy we’re past it. She smiles and says, “Let’s go kayaking. Let’s go walk.”

When it goes back to the year before when I was making all these excuses for myself for the ED, I told myself, say, “Okay, I can live with this. There’s medication for this maybe. Hey, maybe I’ll just stop having sex one day. That seems natural.” And you don’t want to say that, but you’re doing this whole self-fulfilling prophecy and you dig yourself deeper and deeper and deeper. And I just feel so grateful. I know so many people that have probably caught cancer too late and lost their battle. That catching it early is just, it’s going to save us.

Rick Bangs:

Yeah. Yes. Okay, so really want to thank you for your honesty and bravery and bringing that topic forward because it is something, and even when you’re working with a room full of clinicians, it’s uncomfortable. So, appreciate that.

All right, so you’ve talked about your amazing wife and you’ve hinted at some of the tremendous support she provided to you. And I think she was responsible for connecting you with BCAN, so tell me some of the things that she did.

Danny Gereg:

Yeah. Oh, man. So, she works from home and I’m in bed because I’m depressed and I’m giving away my stuff because they did, I probably didn’t mention, they found two. Well, they did find two lung nodules and I didn’t know until later that I actually didn’t have lung cancer, so just depressed and I didn’t care. I cut off. I started giving away my stuff. I gave away my very first guitar pick, so that shows you how seriously I thought that I was leaving this world. I told my wife. I sat her down. And then it seems, I don’t know why, because cathartically it seems very comical that I was like, “Steph, now there’s a whole lot of stuff in the garage that I do, and I’m going to have to teach you where it is.” And I was just so upset that I was going to have to leave her.

But she’d come in every once in a while in her tender way, and she’d be like, “Are you okay?” And I’m like, “Eh.” And she said, “I signed us up for the 2024 BCAN Walk.” And just on the treadmill when I heard. I was like, “BCAN who? What? I don’t want to do that.” And then this is months. I spent months in bed. I barely ate. I lost a bunch of weight, and I was just so upset about dying, potentially dying.

And when I found myself to where I didn’t know, I buried the lung nodule thing and I just didn’t think of it, and then a week before, I had to wait a year to get another CT scan to see if they grew, because they didn’t want to do any invasive biopsies because that could have killed me like that, so a week before, I got the message in MyChart that said, “You have a CT scan pulmonologist,” and I just started bawling. I was like, “Oh, yeah, I’m going to die.” Seriously, that’s what I told myself. So, I went there and they didn’t grow. They were five millimeters. I got two right now, they’re five millimeters. They’re just sitting in there [inaudible 00:24:26].

But when I got away from that, that was the first time that I had stepped on the precipice of that hole, that terrible health hole that I dug myself into. And where I found myself was in Columbus, Ohio at the Bladder Cancer Advocacy Network Walked to End Bladder Cancer with this community. And I still get choked up right now. It’s still a little bit… I’m trying not to cry when I say it, but these people, it wasn’t just a welcome. I was thinking about it a little while ago, and it was… BCAN doesn’t welcome you. They just grab you and bring you in. And the community is just a byproduct of their amazing work.

And I did that. I did the walk. It seems like an insignificant thing. You walk around a thing and, oh, this was just amazing. I got a picture, actually, that is the moment that I stepped out on that precipice from the shadow of cancer. In 2025, I spoke at that walk because I’ve become a public speaker. I’m no longer a plumber. Public speaker advocate extraordinaire. All I care about is guiding other bladder cancer patients, and BCAN is essential in what I do. And amazing friends, colleagues. Thank you, thank you, thank you for everything you do.

Rick Bangs:

BCAN is just amazing.

Danny Gereg:

It is. And that’s the S2S. I got involved with S2S.

Rick Bangs:

Tell me about that. So, S2S is Survivor 2 Survivor, so tell me a little bit about that. And you’ve got some other BCAN credentials, so tell us.

Danny Gereg:

Oh my god, yeah. I ended up, I don’t know how, I don’t want to say infiltrated this organization, but I sat at one… Because like I said, I’m a plumber. I barely knew how to use Zoom when this first started. And I’m sitting there with a couple of amazing people. And I had three of you, I think, and I’m like, “How in the world did I manage this?”

And then the summit ended up, we had the Columbus Summit a couple weeks ago, I got to actually meet all these people. I’m going to tell you what, man. I walked in that place and they welcomed me with open arms. All the staff that I had never met, hugs, just love. And then I realized that there was this whole other cross-section of people that have been walking hand in hand with BCAN for, I don’t know, more than 20 years. They were talking about how some of the staff, “I talked to you 20, 30 years ago. You helped me with my marriage,” or something. I was like, wow, this became so three-dimensional and I’m part of it.

They made me the Person of the Month. That was the first thing they did. They published my story. You’ll always see the stories coming out on BCAN. They’re amazing, hopeful stories about individuals that are dealing with bladder cancer and caregivers, and the summit and the Survivor 2 Survivor, which is essential mentorship. Survivorship is essential. If you need help, call BCAN. If you want to give back, call BCAN. I’ve had several people that I’ve helped. BCAN’s calling me, matching me up more than I really thought. I’ve probably had five or six different people I’ve helped coach through different aspects of surgery. There’s people that call me, even still, I have two or three that are really good friends. So, I definitely recommend BCAN’s services.

Rick Bangs:

So, Survivor 2 Survivor are really nice that they actually do this matching because you get to talk to somebody who’s as similar to you as they can find, which is really important because people like to-

Danny Gereg:

Very important.

Rick Bangs:

People want to talk to somebody like them, and they do a nice job of matching.

Danny Gereg:

It’s just necessary. It’s absolutely necessary. I will always speak of specificity in cancer. And I cannot, I could probably answer a question about muscle invasive bladder cancer, but you can’t relate as a mentor to that unless you’ve really gone through it.

Rick Bangs:

Right, because you don’t have the lived experience.

Danny Gereg:

Yeah. And it’s terrible, I’m sure. But I like to keep my friends various in the bladder cancer community, and I have plenty I can draw from. So, when people come to me in off time away from Survivor 2 Survivor on groups that I run, and I’ll say, “Hey, I got this friend. Let me just refer you over to him.” So, networking is vital.

Rick Bangs:

That’s terrific. Any final thoughts?

Danny Gereg:

Gosh, just I cannot praise BCAN enough to be, I call them our flagship organization, our lighthouse, our beacon. Please do not hesitate. You don’t have to be alone in a fight. All those things that you probably don’t feel that you and I know, Rick, when it comes to laying and sitting there and saying, “Oh, I have that monster of cancer,” you are not alone. When you’re ready, just put out your hand and you can elicit change in your life. I am living proof of that.

Rick Bangs:

Yeah, there is no question about that.

Danny, I want to thank you for sharing your transformation story and also giving a voice to the topic of sexual function.

Danny Gereg:

You’re very welcome.

Rick Bangs:

If you’d more information on bladder cancer, please visit the BCAN website, www.BCAN.org.

Danny, in case people wanted to in touch with you, could you share some kind of contact information?

Danny Gereg:

Yeah, Rick, I’ve actually got to the point where I’ve done this so much, all you have to do is go to Google and type in Danny Bladder Cancer. I take up the first two pages. I got a little obsessed. I made a whole bunch of videos, but I ended up with this immersed, widely spread community of bladder cancer patients, groups. You’ll find it all there. All my publishings, all my videos. It’s just, come on, let’s do this. Let’s lock arms and let’s do this.

Rick Bangs:

Okay, so we’re going to Google Danny Bladder Cancer.

Danny Gereg:

Yes.

Rick Bangs:

Excellent. All right, just a reminder, if you’d more information about bladder cancer, you can contact the Bladder Cancer Advocacy Network at +1(888) 901-2226. That’s all the time we have today. Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe to this podcast so we have your feedback. Thank you for listening, and we’ll be back soon with another interesting episode of Bladder Cancer Matters.

Thanks again, Danny.

Danny Gereg:                                                                            

Thank you, Rick.

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